Taxonomic Swap 125737 (Committed on 2023-06-09)

Added by kitty12 on May 9, 2023 03:14 AM | Committed by abounabat on June 9, 2023
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Yes, no ambiguity in this sense (f. caerulea --> L. loeflingii). And it was the main reason for what I insisted to deviate from POWO for many years considering the "blue form" independantly to the "red form" (L. arvensis s.s.).

Posted by abounabat 10 months ago

What I still don't fully understand in this study is the question of interfecundation between both. Is it truly possible? What is it, then? Hybridization?

Posted by fabienpiednoir 10 months ago

Thanks, I'll read up when I can - I see the blue and red forms widely in Antalya and to be honest the two forms rarely seem to mix their colour to form intermediates but I think they sometimes might do (not in any certain way) which if so may suggest something about the genetics of the colouring being additive rather than alternatives. I don't know about the matter closely though. But certainly happy to see it as a species.

Posted by meteorquake 10 months ago

I've put here an example of a red one changing colour, either influenced by the blue ones or the occasional pale ones (there are a certain number of near whitish ones around, I've never been quite sure what they are but I've generally noted them as var. pallida) - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/166579204

Posted by meteorquake 10 months ago

Incidentally what should the white forms with purple ring at the centre go in as (sometimes a purply tinge to the white), not demonstrating any transition from red?
An example having the tinge would be this one but they're pretty white here in my photos - https://maltawildplants.com/PRIM/Pics/LYSAV/Lysimachia_arvensis%20_[IMG_8136].jpg
I'd originally have thought L. arvensis ?var. pallida

Posted by meteorquake 10 months ago

good question !
@dpavon

Posted by abounabat 10 months ago

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