Taxonomic Swap 23446 (Committed on 2017-07-30)

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Added by kokhuitan on July 30, 2017 09:51 AM | Committed by kokhuitan on July 30, 2017
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@robertarcher397 could you add your comment here? www.inaturalist.org/flags/143069

I briefly looked into this taxon change, which is based on the Plant List (www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-278781).

To me the synonymy is not clear, but I suspect that it should have been swapped with www.inaturalist.org/taxa/202345-Hymenocallis-occidentalis instead (https://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=HYCA9).

Posted by jakob over 6 years ago

If my suspicion is correct, then these observations would need to be manually re-identified as Hymenocallis occidentalis: www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=1&subview=table&taxon_id=78334

Did you look into the synonymy apart from the Plant List, @kokhuitan?

Posted by jakob over 6 years ago

The Pancratium carolinensis is based by Linnaeus on an illustration by Mark Catesby. Thus the www.inaturalist.org/taxa/202345-Hymenocallis-occidentalis seens appropriate based on the FNA. I already reid the Florida specimen and I shall ID the Madagascar one as Hymenocallis. I am really not comfortable ID these at species level. Thanks.

Posted by robertarcher397 over 6 years ago

Please bear with me here, Robert, my taxonomic background is definitely not in plants. Could you explain a little bit more what you suspect the correct synonymy is? Also, I don't know FNA...

Just trying to find a solution for your concern and with respect to this taxon change.

Posted by jakob over 6 years ago

Jakob, the Linnean name was misapplied to the American plant. So although the taxonomy is correct as above, we will need to ID these individually as Hymenocallis occidentalis. FNA is the Flora of North America (http://www.efloras.org/flora_page.aspx?flora_id=1)

Posted by robertarcher397 over 6 years ago

Given the range of Hymenocallis spp in NA (www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=116083), it might be best to go through this list and ID these as Hymencollis, and leave the species identification to those who know them. I'll do that, and add a link to our discussion here.

Posted by jakob over 6 years ago

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