Taxonomic Swap 74768 (Committed on 2024-04-03)

Draft - do not implement. Please note move children is intentionally not selected. Members of Sitticus were moved to multiple different genera including Attulus, Tomis, Mexigonus, Heliophanus, Chinophrys, Jollas etc, so basically, all species need to be moved manually 1 at a time before genus swap is implemented

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Added by cmcheatle on April 12, 2020 12:13 PM | Committed by sjl197 on April 3, 2024
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Wooboy! That's a lot of work. @wmaddisn and @mhedin Congratulations on getting published in a timely manner during a tumultuous time! If you guys need another curator for this quite large swapping, I volunteer. If not, then good luck and again, congratulations on getting such a massive paper published. Looking forward to reading it all and seeing my Sitticus concolor change to Attinella concolor.

Posted by salticidude about 4 years ago

I'll defer to @wmaddisn, but I can't imagine that he'd mind if you wanted to curate the swap. thanks for volunteering!!

Posted by mhedin about 4 years ago

Woah that's pretty crazy!

Posted by blazeclaw about 4 years ago

I'm the only one who can do it, no volunteering involved. I don't think there is any reason not to implement it, but we've had significant pushback on what you would think are non controversial changes before so just trying to be proactive in seeing if there are concerns.

Posted by cmcheatle about 4 years ago

Thanks so much for doing the changes! I haven't checked, but if there are Sitticus records from Mexico or south, then they almost certainly NOT Attulus, but Attinella, Tomis, or Jollas.

Posted by wmaddisn about 4 years ago

So, looking at the map, I've corrected a couple, but I must stay, "Sitticus fasciger" is an invasive species in two respects. It is one in real life, as it was introduced from the Old World to North America. And now, it's one bioinformatically. Quite a few specimens from Mexico and south have been identified as it, and probably none of them is Attulus fasciger, not even close. Most are probably Mexigonus. This mistake is probably propagating by iNaturalist being the source of people's identifications.... I guess people like me who know are supposed to be the stopgap to viral misidentification. Perhaps after the swap is made, I can scan the "Attulus".

Posted by wmaddisn about 4 years ago
Posted by cmcheatle about 4 years ago

@wmaddisn - yes ' I guess people like me who know are supposed to be the stopgap to viral misidentification' really this is the best way especially in cases where the misidentifications are of a genus/species that is still found in that place.

Posted by cmcheatle about 4 years ago

The only one I can see that isn't in that list is (Sitticus) Attinella concolor.

And that is crazy that a Heliophanus was hiding in Sitticus for so long!

Posted by salticidude about 4 years ago

Its there : https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/75085
I just missed filling in the change group dropdown

Posted by cmcheatle about 4 years ago

Awe, okay, I see it now.

Posted by salticidude about 4 years ago

Wow! Looking forward to seeing the outcome!

Posted by tigerbb about 4 years ago

OK, I have activated the change this morning. Now the equally big task of making sure the outcome matches what it should be. Already I've found 3 species that were unaccounted for in the draft changes. In the end rather than applying genus level changes, I'm thinking it will be better to simply inactivate the empty genera.

Posted by cmcheatle about 4 years ago

It is sad that this has got no love for two whole months! bump

Posted by calebcam almost 4 years ago

@calebcam It is actually done. It just needed to be done 1 at a time if you read the thread, and this request to do a bulk one never got deleted

Posted by cmcheatle almost 4 years ago

Oh, okay.

Posted by calebcam almost 4 years ago

It was done within a day or two of this flag, and involved several dozen individual changes. Just do not want to delete the discussion history here.

Posted by cmcheatle almost 4 years ago

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